Second Generation :: Notes
3. Edvard (Edward) JOHANNESEN (ENGEBRETSEN)
Daily Telegraph , Issue 4252, 12 March 1885, Page 2
"An affiliation case, Cecilia LARSEN v. Edward ENGELBRETSON, adjourned from last Court day was heard. Mr. LOUGHNAN for complainant and Mr. LASCELLES for defendant. The case occupied all day, eight witnesses were examined for the complainant and three for the defendant. The plaintiff's evidence showed that ENGELBRETSON had known her from December 27th, 1883, and the child was born on September 26th, 1884. Another witness also proved defendant's connection with the plaintiff. The Magistrate decided that the defendant is adjudged the putative father of the child, and was ordered to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs of Court £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4, solicitors' fee £2 2s, interpreter's fee £1 Is. The defendant was ordered to find a surety in the sum of £20, that he will comply with tho order, in dofault to he imprisoned in the Napier Gaol for two months. Tho surety was forthcoming. "
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Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume XXII, Issue 7111, 13 March 1885, Page 2
"An occasional correspondent at Ormondville writes as follows under yesterday's date:- "Captain PREECE's last visit here in his capacity of Resident Magistrate appeared to have great attraction for the public, who liberally patronised the a Court-house. The reason for such unwonted [sic] attention was an affiliation case, in which a young woman named Cecilia LARSEN sued one Edward ENGELBRETSEN to show cause why he should not contribute towards the support of his child, of which she alleged defendant to be the father. Defendant disputed the alleged paternity, and was defended by Mr LASCELLES, the plaintiff being represented by Mr LOUGHNAN. A great deal of evidence was taken, and the witnesses were cross-examined at considerable length by the opposing counsel. Captain PREECE, at the conclusion of the case, held that it had been proved that ENGELBRETSEN was the father of plaintiff's child, and ordered him to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4 3s, interpreter's fee £1 1, and solicitor's fee £2 2s. Defendant was further ordered to find one surety in £20 that he would comply with the order made, or in default to be imprisoned for two months."
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Daily Telegraph , Issue 4762, 11 November 1886, Page 3
Charged with using obscene language.
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No marriage found.
Cecelia Magdalena LARSEN
Daily Telegraph , Issue 4252, 12 March 1885, Page 2
"An affiliation case, Cecilia LARSEN v. Edward ENGELBRETSON, adjourned from last Court day was heard. Mr. LOUGHNAN for complainant and Mr. LASCELLES for defendant. The case occupied all day, eight witnesses were examined for the complainant and three for the defendant. The plaintiff's evidence showed that ENGELBRETSON had known her from December 27th, 1883, and the child was born on September 26th, 1884. Another witness also proved defendant's connection with the plaintiff. The Magistrate decided that the defendant is adjudged the putative father of the child, and was ordered to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs of Court £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4, solicitors' fee £2 2s, interpreter's fee £1 Is. The defendant was ordered to find a surety in the sum of £20, that he will comply with tho order, in dofault to he imprisoned in the Napier Gaol for two months. Tho surety was forthcoming. "
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Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume XXII, Issue 7111, 13 March 1885, Page 2
"An occasional correspondent at Ormondville writes as follows under yesterday's date:- "Captain PREECE's last visit here in his capacity of Resident Magistrate appeared to have great attraction for the public, who liberally patronised the a Court-house. The reason for such unwonted [sic] attention was an affiliation case, in which a young woman named Cecilia LARSEN sued one Edward ENGELBRETSEN to show cause why he should not contribute towards the support of his child, of which she alleged defendant to be the father. Defendant disputed the alleged paternity, and was defended by Mr LASCELLES, the plaintiff being represented by Mr LOUGHNAN. A great deal of evidence was taken, and the witnesses were cross-examined at considerable length by the opposing counsel. Captain PREECE, at the conclusion of the case, held that it had been proved that ENGELBRETSEN was the father of plaintiff's child, and ordered him to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4 3s, interpreter's fee £1 1, and solicitor's fee £2 2s. Defendant was further ordered to find one surety in £20 that he would comply with the order made, or in default to be imprisoned for two months."
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Marriages:
1887/2308 Cecilia Magdalina Larsen Benjamin Moores
1915/2472 Cecilia Magdalina Moores John Hitchman
13. Albert Edward LARSEN (MOORES)
Daily Telegraph , Issue 4252, 12 March 1885, Page 2 "An affiliation case, Cecilia LARSEN v. Edward ENGELBRETSON, adjourned from last Court day was heard. Mr. LOUGHNAN for complainant and Mr. LASCELLES for defendant. The case occupied all day, eight witnesses were examined for the complainant and three for the defendant. The plaintiff's evidence showed that ENGELBRETSON had known her from December 27th, 1883, and the child was born on September 26th, 1884. Another witness also proved defendant's connection with the plaintiff. The Magistrate decided that the defendant is adjudged the putative father of the child, and was ordered to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs of Court £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4, solicitors' fee £2 2s, interpreter's fee £1 Is. The defendant was ordered to find a surety in the sum of £20, that he will comply with tho order, in dofault to he imprisoned in the Napier Gaol for two months. Tho surety was forthcoming. " ==
Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume XXII, Issue 7111, 13 March 1885, Page 2 "An occasional correspondent at Ormondville writes as follows under yesterday's date:- "Captain PREECE's last visit here in his capacity of Resident Magistrate appeared to have great attraction for the public, who liberally patronised the a Court-house. The reason for such unwonted [sic] attention was an affiliation case, in which a young woman named Cecilia LARSEN sued one Edward ENGELBRETSEN to show cause why he should not contribute towards the support of his child, of which she alleged defendant to be the father. Defendant disputed the alleged paternity, and was defended by Mr LASCELLES, the plaintiff being represented by Mr LOUGHNAN. A great deal of evidence was taken, and the witnesses were cross-examined at considerable length by the opposing counsel. Captain PREECE, at the conclusion of the case, held that it had been proved that ENGELBRETSEN was the father of plaintiff's child, and ordered him to pay 4s per week maintenance, costs £1 9s, witnesses' expenses £4 3s, interpreter's fee £1 1, and solicitor's fee £2 2s. Defendant was further ordered to find one surety in £20 that he would comply with the order made, or in default to be imprisoned for two months."
19. Walter William THORBY
According to Walter's military record, he was 5' 7" tall with brown hair, "clear and healthy" complexion and grey eyes.
20. John Edward THORBY
According to John's military file, he was 5' 6 1/2' tall with brown hair, fair complexion and hazel eyes.
Mary Bridget WOODNEY
Marriages:
1922/4514 Mary Bridget Woodney John Edward Thorby
1928/7332 Mary Bridget Woodney Ernest Edward Miles
24. Ethel † THORBY
Lived for 1 hour after birth.
5. Betsy Kathrine (Bessie) JOHANNESDATTER (ENGEBRETSEN)
Not found with parents at emigration. May have travelled with Martin and Olava PEDERSEN as 'Betsy PEDERSEN'.
27. Edward Stanley LARSEN
Not death found for Edward or Lois. May have emigrated.
Lois Stella Alberta MUNDY
Not death found for Edward or Lois. May have emigrated.
28. Sargi Sabastian † LARSEN
Of Makaretu.
6. Karl Peter (Carl) JOHANNESEN (ENGEBRETSEN)
Farm manager for the Ellinghams at Whetakura. The house is still occuppied... It is called "Glenelg".
Frances Marie EAGLEY
No historical BDM records for surname EAGLEY. Could be BAGLEY?
52. Eileen Josephine ENGLEBRETSEN
Death not found under WILLIAMS. Probably remarried after 1956.
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